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Then what I do is to start manipulating the distances, sets, reps and recoveries so I can increase the distance and hence the time that near maximal intensity can be maintained. I then go back to closer to the original distance used and repeat the process with less recovery..
Will, how do you figure out the total volume?
It is a carrot and stick thing…to be honest (which by inference I never am) I do it by feel and experience rather than to a formula. I was talking with some athletes yesterday about the fact that I somehow manage to make each conditioning session session just painful and yet not impossible. I was trying to explain how I try to coax athletes to ‘fitness’ without them actually realising it…the reason they never realise it is because sessions are always hard but for different reasons. Sometimes it is hard because of the intensity…sometimes it’s the volume…other times it is the reduction in recovery. This is what coaching is actually about…having a feel for your athletes and what they can handle. I actually know a lot of them better than they know themselves and this is demonstrated clearly every time I ask them to do something and they give me ‘that look’ and say ‘Will I can’t do this.’…and then I make them do it and they do. I don’t get it wrong very often. This is the thing isn’t it. This is the bit they can’t teach at University and that you can’t learn from books. So in short to answer your question on how I figure out the total volume….in short…I don’t actually know…or more to the point…I don’t know how to explain it to you.
-Where to start?
Be conservative…giving them too little and them being able to do it hard and fast is better that giving them too much…less is always more….except of course when more is better.
-When upping the distance do you reduce the number of sets to keep volume roughly constant?
I usually manipulate it so they do more but without them realising it…I have a special way of describing sessions to always make them ‘sound’ easier than they are…just ask any of my athletes. The ones that have been with me for years are excellent at doing the mental calculations to work out total volume, total estimated session time and total recovery time before I even pause at the end of my explanation.
-or let the volume grow? How much? Is there a cut off point?
This is really dependent on what you are training for as in what you are trying to improve and the sport for which you are training.
ian has left a new comment on your post “Apparently I only train rugby players”:
BTW…Mike Robertson has stolen your catchphrase, “If you are not assessing, you are guessing.” Saw it on his blog.
Actually, Mike and Will have stolen that phrase from Alwyn – it’s on his website. I don’t know where he got it from though 🙂
I bet I stole it before either of those two.
Will – since ROK’s knees are veering inward I can see how some coaches might have ensured the load was much reduced – even just to doing bodyweight box squats – until the knees travelled more correctly. Any thoughts?
Yes, plenty of thoughts. Firstly, like I said…this problem ‘was’ much worse. Have we got it ‘fixed’ no..not yet. I work with athletes some of these ‘coaches’ you mention…I put coaches in brackets because a lot of these ‘coaches’ don’t actually have any athletes and just write about training rather than conduct it. I will talk about this issue because it is an important one. Have a look at this guy.
He has a lot of scap control issues and a load of strength imbalances…what you are talking about leaves a couple of options…I could stop all his training and correct every single imbalance and problem he has…just as a side note…I don’t have a single professional or semi professional athlete that doesn’t have to ‘nurse’ some sort of imbalance or injury…and as a side side note…if I ruled out every player that wasn’t completely fit to play two things would happen…1. None of the teams I work for would have players to take the field. 2. I would be beaten to a bloody pulp.
Back to Cookies and ROK….so I could stop all their training and just address all their imbalances or I could do what I always do…train them appropriately and address their issues through training. ROK started squatting the bar with difficulty and deadlifting 40kg and now she’s repping with 85kg and pulling nearly twice bodyweight and along the way we’ve improved her knee issues hugely. Cookies did his testing the other day and nearly PB’d on his bench, did 11 pull ups, 60+ push ups and 30+ inverted rows and pulled near double bodyweight. I’ve seen and heard the arguments regarding the point you are raising in this question…I just completely disagree with it. My first priority is to reduce these guys likelihood of injury and optimising their performance…I think I can do both at the same time.
Adrienl has left a new comment on your post “Apparently I only train rugby players”:
Will with regards to 1)athletes performing the supersets of a strength exercise and then a jump or medball throw are you looking to train them to be explosive under fatigue or utlising the reducing of the resistance to allow for greater explosiveness?
We do both those things.
2) would you ever look at utilising the jump before the weight exercise and what type of situation would this be?
3) with regard to the training of sports such as baseball or cricket how much conditioning work would you do(as the sports consist of sprinting and then a long rest) and what would it look like?
No matter what sport you do…being ‘fit’ never hurts.
4) a weird one but have you ever read inside sport and would you be willing to have a look at some of the training programs they are publishing detailing the weeks of professional athletes? they just seem off ( eg a rugby player doing PILATES!!!! for his legs this was timana tahu)
A lot of athletes succeed in spite of their training not because of it.
5) when doing blast strap pushups how much lower or higher should the reps be compared to regular floor pushups
We go hands to chest…so lower.
Okay that’s it for now (just gave you your next blog post if you want) again thanks for putting yourself out there and talking to a kid like me.
You keep asking questions and I’ll keep answering them.